Disagreements with Plato’s thoughts
Plato’s own critique in Parmenidies
- How does a particular partake in the form?
- How is the form incarnated in the particular?
- Does everything have a form? E.g justice
- does a person take part in the whole form or just a part
infinite regression
- Aristotle and Plato say it is impossible
- Form of a man had to based off of a man and that copy has to have been based off of a man
ect (3rd man argument)
Criticism in metaphysics
- 3rd man argument
- too many forms
Bertrand Russell
- How could have God created it has what is timeless must be uncreated
- Heavenly idea of God cat that forms are usually just other particulars superior to the ordinary
kind
Other
- The physical world has a clear reality because if you hit your head on a bookcase is clear
that the physical world is real
- This physical world is still worth studying so we can gain knowledge which will benefit our
day to day life
- Pushed to logical extremes (Aristotle)
- Hard to accept that is an ideal form of bad things such as spite
- How many forms of the same object, so how do we know what the form would be? All forms
have stopped being universal, for example there are some flowers from the same type but
they have a different number of petals
- Plato wasn't clear about the connection between the phenomena and the noumena are and
how it works
- We all have different ideas of what things are, for example beauty. This is the counter
argument for our past life in the world of the forms because if everybody came from the
same place everybody would have the same idea of beauty
Plato’s own critique in Parmenidies
- How does a particular partake in the form?
- How is the form incarnated in the particular?
- Does everything have a form? E.g justice
- does a person take part in the whole form or just a part
infinite regression
- Aristotle and Plato say it is impossible
- Form of a man had to based off of a man and that copy has to have been based off of a man
ect (3rd man argument)
Criticism in metaphysics
- 3rd man argument
- too many forms
Bertrand Russell
- How could have God created it has what is timeless must be uncreated
- Heavenly idea of God cat that forms are usually just other particulars superior to the ordinary
kind
Other
- The physical world has a clear reality because if you hit your head on a bookcase is clear
that the physical world is real
- This physical world is still worth studying so we can gain knowledge which will benefit our
day to day life
- Pushed to logical extremes (Aristotle)
- Hard to accept that is an ideal form of bad things such as spite
- How many forms of the same object, so how do we know what the form would be? All forms
have stopped being universal, for example there are some flowers from the same type but
they have a different number of petals
- Plato wasn't clear about the connection between the phenomena and the noumena are and
how it works
- We all have different ideas of what things are, for example beauty. This is the counter
argument for our past life in the world of the forms because if everybody came from the
same place everybody would have the same idea of beauty
