and answers 100% accurate.
Purpose of reading "Phaedrus"'s three speeches - ANSWERIt compares no love, love
as evil, and love as noble
Lysias --> moves toward evil
Socrates --> the good (noble rhetoric); tries to improve the audience
Lysias' Speech in "Phaedrus" - ANSWERCritiques:
- technical: structure is bad
philosophical: pursues the wrong theme --> love should be praised
no love
better not to love than to love
Socrates' First Speech in "Phaedrus" - ANSWER- love is a desire of some sort -- even
non-lovers desure what is beautiful
-two-guiding principles:
- innate desire for pleasure
- acquired opinion which strives for the best
- slander of god Eros - is a parody of Lysias' speech
- older man wants young man to be weak, feminine, and submissive --> birds in a
guilded cage
evil love (lust) - warning against love
Socrates' Second Speech in "Phaedrus" - ANSWERNoble love - love is to be saught but
restraint is important
- love is Eros
,- lust is madness
- love is passion that leads to carnal passion (uncontrolled passion)
- augury
- divine, augury, prophecy
divine madness:
- prophecy
- muses
- love (beauty)
- relationship between prophecy and love (feel like I've known them forever)
- can only resemble the human soul
- we need passion so you need both horses but you need to control that passion
Reality (substance, essence): what we see from heaven is different than true reality on
earth
- human soul is somehow imperfect because if they didn't they'd still be in heaven
- has the hierarchy of the soul
- when we see Reality we sprout little wings and we see Reality during our aha
moments when we are looking deeper than superficial beauty
- one must analyze nature in the body and soul
- men to trust what they read entirely is utterly simple minded
- know your audience
- words are love
Socrates is trying to persuade Phaedrus about what love is
Lysias' Speech on Behalf of the Invalid - ANSWER- shows the use of probabilities (what
the audience is most likely to believe.
, - he is a shoemaker of some kind
-The man is envious of him, envious because people pay him attention because he is
crippled, he's not envious because he is crippled
-He claims that he can mount a horse and he is able to associate with people who have
the means to spend
-He mounts a horse, but it is not his horse and he cannot walk well so that is why he
mounts horses
-Wouldn't you believe what you see for yourself instead of what this person before you
is telling you
-Insolent is not going to be shown in poor, disabled, old men which are describing the
man who is accusing him
-His accusation about idlers is not specific to his shop but could be used to describe any
shop of trade
-Don't allow this one person to change the way that you have been thinking all along.
Would it make more sense to allow things to happen as they were instead of trusting
one man to be the voice for something to change
-Why would you vote the other way, no one has been brought to the court with the same
case and lost his pension
-Don't vote him guilty as they would for people who have committed serious crimes
-Why would I fake this? Other people had to make money for him to make his case
-The accuser probably would say that he is doing this because he is the stronger of the
two, though he may be doing it because he believes it to be true because others would
think that he is just trying to deprive this old, disabled man of money.
Encomium of Helen (Gorgias) - ANSWER- titled a speech of praise but it is actually a
speech of defense (apology)
-epidictic rhetoric
- prototypical example of Gorgias' oratorical style
- wanted to frame Helen as a victim and not a victimizer
- uses probabilities to defend Helen's journey to Troy
- provides previews of the speech/ alternatives to why she went
- persiasion is powerful --> those who are persuaded are not guilty
- words on mind = drugs on the body and it can be different for everyone